What really happenen in the 9/11 attacks? Zeitgeist: The Movie

And I'll take the words of the hundreds of people who saw the plane hit. You do realize that the Pentagon is adjacent to two freeways in a major city and the plane hit at the tail end of the morning rush, right? That time of day there are probably 70 people a minute going through the Corridor 2 and Corridor 3 entry control points in and out of the south side of the building who were in position to see it.

Hundreds of people are on record as seeing the plane hit (including several I know; I worked in room 4D1083 in the Pentagon at the time); thousands of the people who evacuated the building saw plane parts, and there were even insurance claims for cars in the parking lot damaged by debris. So is the AF MSgt from my office who was pulling into South Parking when he saw the plane hit a liar? He pulled a lot of folks out of the ruins.

Plus there's released video of the impact, and there are plenty of statements from firefighters (including the people who found the black box), and photos of plane parts in and around the building.

I don't find the assertion that something else happened to the Pentagon to be credible. Your mileage, obviously, varies on that point.

randomreturn,

The only video I have ever seen of the impact on the Pentagon is a few seconds of here it isn't then here's the flames. Got a link for us?

That's probably the one...parking lot on the NW corner where you can see the tail of the plane for a frame or two.

Not in the photos you cherry-picked. I note that you didn't include any of the photos that do show plane parts.

I'm going to bow out of this one. I think trutherism is a faith-based belief system and historically it's just proven too frustrating to try to argue

"Zeitgeist" is a German word which roughly translates to "the way people feel and believe during a certain day and age". Or "the customs, behavior, and views people hold in a certain period of human history". In the case of this movie, the "period of human history" is now; the current time.
The literal English translation is Zeit (time) and Geist(spirit)...the German meaning is the "spirit of the time/s"
Haven't seen the movie; I have to get to sleep. I will watch later tho, and comment.
Voted "up" already because I've been wanting to see the movie for a while now.
Vielen Dank, Arieus!

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Hey walking dead! Good to see you!. I agree with the fear projection illusion. I wish 911 did not give the government a reason to trash the constitution.

9/11 didn't...those who tried to make a stand against what the gov was doing were out numbered by those who fell for the deceptions. How to get people to not make decisions based upon fear I don't have an answer for. Fear has been the great motivator since people began to fear. It's time fear does not motivate us against each other. It's time fear does not give governments power over the people. It's time fear does not make us enemies.

Good to see you too!

Why does dead bodies feel like power to those who kill? It's like hoarders...it's never enough.

.those who tried to make a stand against what the gov was doing were out numbered by those who fell for the deceptions.

For sure. I stood against it and tried to rally people I knew to write their reps. I still have the letter I received from my rep at the time telling me what was best for me. I campaigned hard against him and he lost re-election. I feel pretty sure the most of ones who voted in favor of NDAA will loose their seats as well.

Yeah they might lose seats but the reality is the real ones in power will try and keep their hold. Lobbyists and committees will still make sure the votes go a certain way and the game will continue until we all stand together and stare with the WTF look upon our faces. I thought we would be there a lot sooner but I was wrong...out of fear we let some bizarre legislation pass. Then the divisions in our country we are not even close to that. Plus we have the think tanks and technology that tells them how to get the majority of people to behave a certain way....

It's not just a few particualr things that need changed it's the consciousness as a whole.

It's not just a few particualr things that need changed it's the consciousness as a whole.

I know . But the thoughts of the people in the USA have changed. People now believe security is more important the freedom. It hurts to be labeled a nut job and I wonder if the people who call me this will ever even get it.This is something that Ron Paul says a lot people have to change their thinking to stop this loss of our freedoms.

I started realizing the something was up when Clinton and Gingrich were so together on everything back during the 90's. Every time I heard NAFTA brought up in the media I would cringe. I kept telling people it would take away our jobs nobody listened....

I almost never watch TV because my free mind can feel the propaganda trying to take it over.

I stopped watching the news a long time ago for the same reasons...when I saw the news again I saw everything technique for heightened emotional play based upon fear and triggering the same mechanisms that addictions and marketing uses. I call it the science of manipulation because we now know how the brain responds to stimuli so all ya got to do is trigger the responses you want triggered to get people to respond as you wish.

Watching the news is like playing a video slot machine with all the sights and sounds to get you to focus and stay until they have feed you what they wanted...mostly fear. Catch phrases with lights bells and whistles....stay informed and on heightened alert. Living in a heightened state of alert for prolonged periods of time does what to the brain?

I started realizing it back with Nixon but I'm sure it stretches further back. In history class I was thinking OMG it didn't happen that way and all the events started to play in my head. I stayed up on politics until recently when my friend became terminal. I'm sorry to say I think it is a waste of time to keep up on politics because all I see is history repeating itself but on a higher destructive scale until people face fear and realize the crap they tell us is either manufactured or provoked to get you to react the way they want you too....

When I saw Bush, Rummy and Cheney I told my ex...shirt we are going to war. This was before Bush was even sworn in. He said no that people were not in the mindset for war...I told him they would be if something happened like pearl harbor. 9/11 my client called to ask if I turned on the news and she was not coming in because of what was going on...

I woke my ex (husband at time) we stood there jaws to the ground...and I said Bush just got his war. Geeez people handed over their rights and dignity right and left....and then bought lots of survival gear and the all important Duct tape to survive that gas attack (ummm dude your house is not air tight-good luck with that).

I'm practicing my WTF? look for the upcoming year....